After recently watching MANswers on Spike, I have become rather enraged due to their 'strangest fetish' section of one of their episodes. And I bet you can guess what they listed as one of the weirdest fetishes...
Yup, you guessed right... Pee desperation.
Maybe it's because the person analysing the information doesn't have the same fetish as we do, but I don't see it as that strange of a fetish (and I'd say there are much stranger fetishes that don't make any sense, at least pee desperation involves the area around the sex organs). For those who didn't see that particular episode, the designated weirdest fetish was the clown fetish, which I'd dare say that even the people who have the fetish would admit that it is a bit weird.
However, the main point of this discussion is my worry about whether or not this is really how the rest of the world views us. I consider this somewhat strange (it's a fetish, it probably should be labeled somewhat strange), but not really that strange. Please discuss.
P.S. I'm sorry if this is not in the correct section. I guessed as to which catagory it should appear in. Also, I'm sorry for any typos, I typed this all on my iPod touch (my computer's down).
look there are a bunch of weird fetishes out there. Foot fetish, bondage and so many more. it all has to do with what you enjoy or find pleasurable. just because someone dosen't have the same views as you dosen't mean that what you like is wrong
Well really, no fetish is wrong in and of itself. As for weird? Yeah I'd say pee desperation fetish is a little strange, because most people find it just unfortunate (and if they're immature, humorous).
As for one of the top ten weirdest fetishes? Hell no, there are tons of things weirder. Lol @ clowns, and of course other bizarre fetishes are pretty much the reason behind Rule 34.
it's only strange because of how it is publicly impolite to want to see such a thing. to some the thought of someone wanting to see a person need to piss themselves and being aroused by such activity seems a bit strange. To use with the fetish it isn't that strange cause it's something we can relate to and approve of. I, myself, know that some ppl may see it as very strange so it's not really high on my list of things i tell ppl that turn me on unless the person is really close.
I always thought that dressing up as a horse and having someone ride you was a far weirder fetish than clowns. At least clowns are human. O_o;
I think that it is generally seen as weird because most people would usually rather not associate with any waste product that exits the body. There are certainly more (arguably) disgusting fetishes out there, notably those that have to do with those other wastes.
However, I'd say that people commonly list urine fetishes as "weirdest" on these tv shows because that is probably on the outer limit of what people are willing to think about. Pee is kinda gross, but mostly harmless. Anything beyond that, like the poop, vomit, futa and guro and the like, are probably beyond the limit of public television.
Consider the source. MANswers is easily among the most insipid, awful shows on television. And anyone who names desperation as one of the weirdest fetishes seriously needs to browse /d/ or gurochan and see some real weird shit.
I wouldn't say desperation is weird at all. Consider the fact that this fetish directly involves the reproductive organs, where others like foot and clown fetishes have nothing to do with naughty bits. More importantly, watersports involves
stuff coming out of our reproductive organs, even if this stuff isn't cum. Our fetish might be weird to look at, but i think it's perfectly reasonable that so many people would get it because it's inherently sexual.
Now when you keep in mind that everyone has bathroom needs, and most people have to deal with desperation while growing up due to strict school rules, it almost seems unavoidable that you'll have the chance to get this fetish.
QuoteAnything beyond that, like the poop, vomit, futa and guro and the like, are probably beyond the limit of public television.
And anyone who names desperation as one of the weirdest fetishes seriously needs to browse /d/ or gurochan and see some real weird shit.
Yes, a person would have to be very naive to think desperation even comes close to being "extreme". If MANswers aired online instead of on TV, i'm sure we would have seen some REAL interesting nominations.
Quote from: Stargazing Wanderer on July 20, 2009, 03:14:24 PMI always thought that dressing up as a horse and having someone ride you was a far weirder fetish than clowns. At least clowns are human. O_o;
How about someone dressing up as a horse and having a clown ride her? :lol:
I guess in my opinion, our little fetish doesn't involve hurting people or creating problems for others, so who cares? Everyone's fetish is probably construed as weird by everyone else, hence why its a fetish, its a non-normal obsession with some aspect of sexuality (or sexualizing things that aren't all that sexual)
I always thought it was a normal fetish. I mean the person takes his/her pants off in order to perform a bodily function, in which to avoid an act which society turns against in an inappropriate public area.
Quote from: Tru on July 20, 2009, 07:07:34 PM
Consider the source. MANswers is easily among the most insipid, awful shows on television. And anyone who names desperation as one of the weirdest fetishes seriously needs to browse /d/ or gurochan and see some real weird shit.
QFT. I saw half of one episode of Manswers and turned it off.
As for the /d/ board, I haven't looked at it, but I can imagine. XD
Am I the only one who enjoys MANswers in a juvenile, dumb-entertainment kind of way? Probably. The fact that I'm a woman makes it even weirder...
Anyway, nth-ing that the show hasn't seen ANYTHING yet. Few things bother me anymore, but they should see the kind of shit that's on /d/ every day - the kind of thing that most people would think is weirder than pee.
Err-hem.
Nipple-fucking, goo/monster girls, vore, tentacles, dicknipples, shitting dicknipples (though scat is banned on /d/, many consider it more "extreme" than pee), monster on girl rape, "sea angels", transformation, oviposition, "extreme" insertions, preggos/birthing/unbirthing, and I'm pretty sure I just saw a bunch of kittens eating a girl out. And of course there's always guro, also banned on /d/, but it's certainly all over the internet. The latter and scat are really all that bother me in any way, and nipple-fucking because it just makes my nipples feel weird...
So there's that, Spike TV. I'd love to see the execs of that network see all of that.
I actually saw the segment in question on mAxie's . Not sure why someone would upload something that pretty much bashes his own fetish though... I recall them saying "A pee desperation fetishist CAN'T get off without seeing some one wet themselves" It's the can't part that gets me.
Meh... I think there trying to appeal to the "juvenile, dumb-entertainment" loving crowd who thinks anything outside of classic T&A or stripper girls is a weird fetish that needs bashed.
While we're on the topic of spike, one of my favorite radio shows had a good ten minutes of making fun of some guy with a cross dressing fetish, he called in wanting to know how to introduce it to his girlfriend. A few years later they wanted to get into the TV gig so they complied a bunch of video clips of the show to make into a behind the scenes style TV show and spike was the last station, of many, that was considering them. They refused which after viewing the segment I found a bit ironic.
Quote from: none on July 22, 2009, 12:05:38 PMI recall them saying "A pee desperation fetishist CAN'T get off without seeing some one wet themselves" It's the can't part that gets me.
If you went by the most hardcore definition of a fetish, that would be true. They say that someone with a fetish has to have that object in there for anything to happen. Obviously there aren't many with a FD preference that is that far gone.
I tend to think that any sexual activity not specifically targeted toward reproduction is fetish, including intercourse with birth control. We're all trying to do the same thing: have good, dirty fun.
a fetish is only weird if you think it is weird so most people who don't have desperation/wetting fetish could see it as weird, it really all just depends on what you think and ignore those people who call it weird
HIDEL RULE 34!!!!! *read
Quote from: yat282 on July 28, 2009, 05:43:21 PM
sorry to say, but the average person doesn't recognize the pee fetish. I'm sure it sounds strange once they hear about it, but a more famous fetish (poop) is more famous, as it is mention in the southpark movie, plus 2 girls 1 cup gave it some fame there. people think it's gross but at least they know about it.
Regarding the scat fetish: I think it's odd that although people recognize it, I imagine they'd be less grossed out by its golden-hued counterpart. :D
I'm not really surprised nor bothered about this, to be honest.
Let's remember that there are huge swathes of the population who think that ANYTHING even slightly out of what is considered "normal" or "correct" is inherently bad or evil, and should be shunned immediately. I'm not just talking about religious groups, some of whom have their own reasons for disliking certain fetishes, but mostly about the blinkered, TV-addicted, closed-minded, beer-swilling demographic that we like to term as "The General Public" - i.e. anyone that isn't "one of us."
I've always thought of watersports as a "weird fetish" - I don't get it, I'm not into it, I don't want to try it. But IMO it's fine for those who want to do it in their own time. I'm into desperation - that's a totally different thing, although loads of people don't get that.
Personally, I don't talk much about my desperation fetish outside of the "scene" - people don't understand it and think I'm wierd - more wierd than they think I am because I'm also torture, spanking, domination and orgasm denial. Desperation is really just an extension of my torture fetish - I like to see girls in pain or discomfort, whether that's from a whip, a denied orgasm, or an over-full bladder.
I've never told a girlfriend about my desperation fetish, although to be fair, it's been a very long time since I've had a girlfriend for long enough to tell her about that sort of thing :p
My point is - some people will never understand our fetish, just as we will never understand some others. All we can do is agree to get along and, if it comes to it, fight our corner when the puritans try to ban our fetish.
Im sure people who dont like it would view it as weird. But people who like it wouldnt. Its all a matter of opinion i guess.
Quote from: the_variant on July 29, 2009, 06:30:54 AM
I've always thought of watersports as a "weird fetish" - I don't get it, I'm not into it, I don't want to try it. But IMO it's fine for those who want to do it in their own time. I'm into desperation - that's a totally different thing, although loads of people don't get that.
Personally, I don't talk much about my desperation fetish outside of the "scene" - people don't understand it and think I'm wierd - more wierd than they think I am because I'm also torture, spanking, domination and orgasm denial. Desperation is really just an extension of my torture fetish - I like to see girls in pain or discomfort, whether that's from a whip, a denied orgasm, or an over-full bladder.
I think my fetish may be along the same lines. The actual wetting is not very interesting to me, aside from maybe the humiliation aspect, and I get nothing from the whole "golden showers" aspect. I think that my tastes are more about sadism, but I haven't ventured very far away from the "sadism by over-full bladder" area yet.
I remember a quote I heard a long time ago, goes something like "The only weird thing with turn-ons is not having anything that turns you on"
I would call it a little weird. But I don't think it should be in the top 3. The Mucus fetish is far weirder in my eyes.
Quote from: yat282 on August 01, 2009, 09:43:19 PM
if people did understand our fetish and accept it as not weird though, it would not be a fetish.
Nearly the entire straight male population has a breast fetish. Breasts are accepted and flaunted openly as sexy even though they have nothing to do with intercourse. Since they're not directly related to sex, being turned on by breasts alone is technically a fetish no matter how widespread it is.
The same would be true for FD-- still a fetish even if the whole world embraces pee.
:drool: With as much popularity as FD has on this forum, I wouldn't really consider it that "weird." Different, yes, but
weird is simply not an adjective that really applies. Believe that gore and scat fetishes certainly fall into the truly weird
category, but FD is simply delightfully different and a lot of fun to share with like-minded folk. :lol:
I know what you mean Euronaut. It's great to have somewhere where I can talk to people with a similar fetish, but also point out my own.
FD is very different indeed, and I'm glad I was able to find others that were into it.
I was afraid I was the only one. :S
It's not 'weird' it's different. lol. *I think Gore fetishes are weird, but just cuz I don't have one, more than likely*
Of course, I'm not going to go parade around town that I have a wetting fetish.
*partly cuz I still keep that a secret, and partly cuz I don't want to walk around that much*
^^;
I think some people just say that something is weird to prevent that the others could think that these people have something to do with it. And some the people just say that it is weird because they don't know it. When you tell a person that you are into peeing I think the first reaction would be that he/she says that you and your fetish are weird. But when you talk about it the other person would think about it and maybe his/her fetish is weird for you^^.
Often it is a thing of your education. When your parents say that peeing in your pants is weird or dirty you keep it in mind and later you recognize it. Weird is just a thing of his/her own position. You can't say that something is/isn't weird when your opponent does.
If you think about it any fetish is strange. to be turned on by the human body is normal, no matter what. And since a bladder fetish is a fetish it shouldn't be called strange.
While there are much odder fetishes out there, I can see why this one would be labeled as one of the stranger ones. Doesn't surprise me.
Also, Manswers can fuck off.
In answer to the original question (which has been answered many times in this thread already, but oh well),
By Manswers definition of weird, FD is weird, they don;t have a pee fetish, and its one of the weird fetishes the ARE allowed to talk about without having the FCC giving them a good talking to.
By Internet definitions, FD is one of the most sane fetishes out there, as there's tons more that are just odd.
All the same its nice to have a community of people who enjoy the same thing.