Anime Girl Desperation Official Forum

I remember seeing a few posts a long time back where people mentioned they didn't like self desperation and am now curious. Now obviously everyone here likes females getting desperate and/or wetting, but what about doing so yourself?  How many of you enjoy the feeling of having to go or wetting yourself, and not just watching it happen to someone else?

me? I absolutely love it, maybe even more then I do watching it happen to others, and just love being forced to hold it in and then be forced to wet myself.  Unfortunately while i enjoy being desperate, I'm not very good at handling the pain of a full bladder.

Well, a few years ago, I don't exactly remember how long ago, I know I was still in high-school, but before I take a shower, I would purposely wet myself and it felt wonderful.  IIRC the only reason I stopped doing it was because I was worried that my mom would find my underwear when she washed the closed and smelled the pee... although, I do use my previously worn clothes as a towel for when I step out of the shower.

@ op:

In a word, yes.  Catnip helps with the pain, btw.

I like it. I'll hold it in for hours if i plan on being alone all day. Lately i've taken to not using the bathroom before i go to bed. I can fall asleep with a half full bladder, then it gets bad enough to wake me up in the middle of the night.

Quote from: Dynamic on August 29, 2010, 11:42:06 PM
Catnip helps with the pain, btw.

I really need to learn how to make this. Anything to help me relax and have a real accident easier.

I remember hearing something involving catnip, but not that it helps the pain. How's it work?

Oh god... I just googled that catnip thing, I wound up in a horrible place. I'll never be able to forget what I learned.

As for the topic itself. Can't really say I enjoy it. Tried it myself a few times, didn't really do much for me.

I'm... not sure how you could end up in a horrible place by googling catnip, but I am sure I don't wanna know.  Thankfully, I've done all the research I need already.

So then, I'll get to the explanation.  Keep in mind, I've only really tried this with myself.  I haven't had many volunteers (for science) lately XD

Like many of you, I'm into self-desping, but have an AWESOME bladder.  Under normal circumstances, there's no way to become desperate, let alone have an accident.  But still, from time to time to overwhelming desire to experience a complete loss of control, well, overwhelms us.  So we try, and try and try.  The same problems keep hindering our experience:  It takes forever to get 'desperate', and when we are finally there it just gets more and more  uncomfortable, then painful, and after many hours of holding, NOTHING HAPPENS.  Eventually we give up and let go, or even go to the bathroom.  Such a waste of time and effort.  This was my experience, until I discovered a not-to-well known trick.

That's right: catnip.

This stuff, properly used, is awesome.  Its properties give it an interesting effect on humans when ingested.  It is a powerful diuretic, as well as a muscle relaxant.  On top of that, it seems to have the strange side-effect of making the bladder lightly spasm.

I first learned of catnip's effects from a 'Diaper-training guide' I found somewhere.  As I have tried many things, I wasn't totally convinced, but I was curious.  After a bit of hunting, I found a tea at the local grocery market that had catnip as one of its ingredients.  When the opportunity arose, I brewed some of that tea and gave it a shot.  Of course, its no magic bullet all by itself, so I made sure to drink plenty of other liquids.  In short, it wasn't much different from the regular routine of trying to manufacture an 'accident.'

Without boring you with the details, the 'endgame' was quite different than usual... in that there was one.  The feeling of desperation came suddenly, and then subsided.  Then it came again, only more potent.  This happened a few times, until finally I felt an extremely powerful urge that resulted in an 'accident.'  Although not a true accident (because I planned it), it was real in every other sense of the word.  I didn't try to go at all.  In fact, I was trying not to go.  But it was impossible to hold it, it just came out of its own will.  I didn't lose everything.  I was able to stop going after a bit, but after another several minutes of the off again on again feelings of desperation, I lost the rest.

I'm not sure why it works so well, or if it will work well for anyone besides myself, but I do know that it works.  I think a big part of it is the muscle relaxing properties of the catnip, and perhaps the other ingredients of that tea.  The spasming feeling is interesting too.  I'd like to hear other people's experiences, if I could find some volunteers.  C'mon, it's for science!

I'm not sure what the best way to get catnip is, but the tea I managed to find is pretty good.  It's called "Tension Tamer" by Celestial Seasonings.  I'm not sure where else it's available (West Coast USA here), but maybe it can be bought online or something.  I'm curious to try stronger blends, and maybe when I have the funds I'll order some ingredients and try making something myself.

Well, hope that helps.

hmm, my family is a big group of tea drinkers(we have boxes of the stuff, including stuff from celestial seasons). Next time we go grocery shopping ill look to see if i can find some of it and give it a try. For science, of course.

Quote from: oramisho on August 31, 2010, 01:47:31 PMFor science, of course.

Because if we don't, who will?

It's been a while since I've last done this, so I decided since I had some free time today I would.  Well, it still works.  Laundry will attest to that...

Word of advice:  don't operate heavy machinery while doing this!  Those last few moments are... intense.  Also, mind your other, um... needs.  Toward the end I experience what feels like involuntary 'pushing', so yeah.  I don't know how it will manifest itself in you, but just a word of warning.

I tried the catnip trick as well (same type of tea as Dynamic) and I have to say, it works well. My desperation snuck up on me a bit as I was in a "need to pee, but not emergency" mode for a few hours. All of the sudden, I was holding on for dear life for fifteen minutes until I sprinted downstairs and pissed myself in the bathtub. That was one of the few times I actually felt like I wasn't going to make it.

If you are interested, give it a try. Of course, the tea isn't an insta-piss, I also had a Poweraid, two bottles of water (both earlier in the day), and a Sprite to kick-start me.

i tried some of the tea as well, and felt the need to pee for hours. I didnt feel any sudden weakness though. Maybe i gave up too early.

Yeah, it's an exercise in patience as much as anything else.  I have had varying results, I think mostly due to my diet.  Obviously, if you've had a lot of sodium your body will wanna hang onto all the water it can.  A low sodium diet is probably a self-desperation fan's best friend ^^

Don't give up yet, Oramisho.  When in doubt... drink more water :P

Well like ive said, i have an incredibly small bladder, so drinking more has a good chance of leading me to a prety full bladder near instantly.

...you know maybe ill try drinking two cups of the tea, then some soda or something to fill my bladder up quickly. since the urge to go starts up pretty early and lasts a while, the relaxent will be strong enough to create an accident wihtout waiting hours. worst case scenario i just have to pee really bad and I go.

For science.

Oh, the things we do in the name of science.

Good luck, buddy ^^

This sounds fairly interesting. Being a girl, I have a smallerish bladder, so quickly needing to go until I lose control isn't really much of a problem for me. I get the urge to go an hour or so after drinking, and it builds until I'm rocking forward and back to ease the pressure, and fianlly, I just start to dribble a little until I lose muscle tone and it all comes out. XD; Will try a little catnip tea, though, just in case. Science!

Hmm, Mizukine's a girl, so perhaps we should add her to the loss of control group.  Then again, as this research so far has been primarily boys, then maybe she, being a girl, is a variable...

Someone help me out here.  I'm not so good at real science.

"real" science would need entire groups of both genders and some strict system to eleminate all other variables (ie what to drink during the experiement, how long ago did youwent, what have you eaten/drank beforehand, etc)

for this stuff, she's a whole different variable (what effects it has on women).

Screw real science. I just want a new, better way to piss myself.

Hurray for pseudoscience!

Quote from: Mizukine on September 13, 2010, 11:45:26 PM
Screw real science. I just want a new, better way to piss myself.

I couldnt have said it better,

Ill try the tea this weekend.

Good on my word, i tried the tea with an extra bottle of water tonight. Things went normal for a holding session, until i felt a sudden weakness, and my ability to hold it felt really weak.  Every couple of minutes, it would feel like my muscles were contracting/spasming and It felt like it was about to come out, then id feel ok a couple minutes later. the urges kept coming every couple of minutes until one finally hits that made me just go. I didn't feel any of that involuntary "pushing" that was mentioned earlier though.

I had 3 cups of tea for this,though no idea if it had any more of an effect then just one cup would have done.

Hmm, maybe we have slightly different reactions.  Other than that, it sounds about right, though.

All in all, what do you think?

Food absorbs the chemical effects much like the same way it's harder to get drunk if you've eaten. Try drinking on an empty stomach.

Every time I try this on an empty stomach I don't feel so good.  Too much liquid with not enough food upsets the balance, you know?

But that's me.

Quote from: Dynamic on September 18, 2010, 01:19:39 AM
Hmm, maybe we have slightly different reactions.  Other than that, it sounds about right, though.

All in all, what do you think?

Felt pretty good. Once i started standing it wasnt very painful to hold, and the sudden urges felt more like it was forcing its way out instead of me just hurting from holding it. It still took quite a while for an accident, but it did happen eventually.

I tried this right after eating dinner, so Trying it without food might yeild a different experience.

Well in that case...

FOR SCIENCE!

=3

So i found the right tea and tried this twice, both with no results.

Last week i held it in until i had to pee "kind of" bad, ate lunch and then drank 1 cup of this tea. I then held it for maybe 2 more hours and had to quit because i had other things to do. The urge to let go never got too strong.

This morning i had to pee VERY bad since i had last gone at 7:00 last night. I drank 2 cups of this tea on an empty stomach and sat at the computer for a few hours. My bladder was starting to hurt from being so full (it had an impressive bulge too) but again it didn't feel like i was about to let go. In the end i just had to give up.

I'd give it another try with 3 bags next time, but this stuff tastes like ass. I think i'll just give up and watch everyone else try this experiment. :surrender:

I have no idea where I would even find this stuff, but I guess I could search around.

Serika, perhaps you should try drinking the tea first then filling up?

Quote from: Zenix on September 21, 2010, 02:39:54 PM
I have no idea where I would even find this stuff, but I guess I could search around.

Any large grocery store will do, you may need to check a few before you find it. Coffee and tea are usually next to each other, find the aisle and look through the tea boxes for this stuff.

QuoteSerika, perhaps you should try drinking the tea first then filling up?

Is that what everyone else is doing? I thought it would wear off if i took too long to fill up.

I've generally found that it takes a while to kick in.  I usually start the activities with the tea, then switch to whatever else I feel like.  Usually it takes about 2-3 hours for me, but I'm sure everyone else is different.

Sometimes I get a dud though.  I'm pretty sure it has to do with diet and such.

I don't "hate" being desperate, but I'm not all that fond of it. I do definitely enjoy wetting however.

I only do it occasionally.. it's probably been almost a month since I last purposely wet myself.

I normally do it myself only one every month or so, i  tend to avoid doing it too much (wouldn't want to get caught)

Do I? Yesss. Being a girl, that's why I'm here!

I love the feeling of being full. It's such a great feeling  :lol:
Sometimes I'll down a lot of water, then lay on my bed looking at my laptop (anime pee pics~) until I start to squirm. Because when you're laying down, you get fuller without realizing it, as opposed to sitting up or something. And you can usually control it more easily. Then I enjoy the feeling and the waves of pressure till it's just too much for me, and I figure out what to do with it.

Though I don't really wet my clothes, cuz it's too big a hassle to clean and it's not much fun for me. Sometimes I'll sit on a towel and let a little out at a time. That's the best :D. I also like to get in the shower and hold for as long as possible, or let a little out at a time in there (now that's hard depending on how full I am!). Or I'll flood my legs in the shower or something. That's about all I can do at college though.

Oh wow, so I was just checking my email, and I have one from Amazon telling me about their Tea selection, and what is the first one on the list? Tension Tamer. I don't recall every looking on Amazon for it, I understand emailing me about stuff I bought, but stuff I simply googled? That's pretty creepy Amazon.

of course I'm into self desperation, but I don't enjoy wetting myself, I prefer to releif myself with no clothe restrintions ^^. But i can't do ir very often, sigh

Quote from: Magic Kitty on September 23, 2010, 06:19:04 PMThough I don't really wet my clothes, cuz it's too big a hassle to clean

I feel ya, but I'm also into diapers so it's a non-issue  ;D

I enjoy both desperation and wetting, although I'm pretty used to hold for very long periods, enough to need to pee even just three times a day without getting desperate. That makes it hard for me to actually feel desperate and I never had a real accident, aside from intentional wetting.
I would try not peing before sleeping, but then I'd hate to wake up in the night and disturb my sleep...can be troublesome not to feel nice and rested in the morning.  :S
Actually I don't quite feel  pleasure from having a full bladder, but the thought (and it's cuteness :3 ) is quite amusing to me, even because I would then tell about it to a friend of mine who'd feel aroused and get playful. However, for how much I enjoy it, I rarely wet since I have people at home.
I usually do it only before showering and like trying it with different clothes.
My favourite combination is perhaps cotton briefs and shorts, since it's easier to clean up and lets me see all of it unlike long pants. :3

I used to enjoy holding it (that's how I got into omorahi), but when I was around 15 something clicked and I became physically incapable of feeling desperation. When I hold it goes something like this:

1. My bladder tells me that it is full enough to pee
2. Three hours later - my bladder tells me it is full, no desperation though - feel strangely thirsty, drink a bottle of water
3. 45 mins later it starts to hurt for about 5 mins, then it goes away
4. 30 mins later, it start hurting again, this time a continuous ache - sipping water seems to ease the pain
5. 15 mins later, there is intense pain, in my kidneys - I could ignore it easily, but I worry about damaging myself, still no desperation or feeling of 'not being able to hold it' In fact 'holding it' is never really an issue - I loosen my belt (if I am wearing one)
6. 10 mins later - I finally use a bathroom, it's difficult to let it out, I have to force out about 200mL before I can pee normally - total capacity around 700mL (measured in 750mL bottle)

Throughout the whole experience I never felt the slightest bit that anything was going to leak, I don't even cross my legs, on the contrary, I find it's better to spread them and arch my back slightly to give more space to my bladder.

The one time (since I turned 15) that I honestly felt like I was wetting myself was when I had some wisdom teeth removed at the dentist. They gave me nitros but they turned it up too high and I nearly passed out from hypoxia, I felt all tingly and I couldn't feel my legs I literally had almost no control over my muscle functions - I didn't wet though. It was just that I didn't have any control and I thought I might have wet but I reached down and felt my pants but they were dry (or as near as I could tell with my numb fingers. After they revived me they did the operation and it was all fine.

I told the dentist that I really enjoyed the procedure, he laughed and said that I was the first.

I like wetting, but not the desperation part. It hurts too bad and I'm a wuss.  :sweatdrop:
So, what I use to do is just fill my badder up with lots of liquid and as soon as I needed to go, I'd let it go. No waiting for accidents, just deliberate wetting. And I would keep filling up my bladder, if I began to run out, having fun that way. But, now that I'm older (and lazier) I don't do wetting much anymore, because it's a pain to clean up!!!
But I still enjoy reading stories of others, watching videos, and viewing anime about it.
Nowadays, I just tease myself, with holding it and using a vibe. Then afterward, I safely empty on the toilet. =p

Any subjective desperation aficianodos would probably enjoy sharing experiences at Water Holding Desperation (http://www.holdyourbladder.info/whdforumsmf/index.php). Those are the folks who got me experimenting again recently, after some 20 years of relating to desperation strictly as the horndog. As a teenager before internet there was simply no apt sex object available, so originally I had to act out my own fantasies, just to know what to imagine! (Dark times, indeed.) I've found it is still useful, to understand what I'm seeing in videos and hearing from my wife. Holding is incompatible with my sexual response—definitely something to do when the lady is away, ragging it, or denying me sex for whatever reason—but it's an excellent alternative!

I think Dynamic is onto something with the sodium hypothesis. I tend to avoid salt, and my experience with regular tea is like his with the catnip. In order to stretch my bladder and experience some of the more visceral sensations of desperation, I have to sit on an incontinence pad (Invacare ISG-13452, good for so many things!) and continue holding after I have already leaked significantly.  Otherwise, I would only experience an overwhelming urethral strain localized in the genitalia. Green tea is especially irritating to the bladder, I find, but tea (http://secure.uptontea.com/shopcart/tocIndex.asp) is definitely the way to go generally.

I like both desperation/wetting but I prefer it if it's accidental...Which is of course incredibly hard to pull off =P

I have a huge bladder myself, at least for "girl standards" and thus I don't really get desperate unless I'm out for ages and/or drink A LOT but that's not usually the case, and even if I do it would feel sort of like I planned it anyway! So what i do for fun is roleplay with other girls on messenegr or similar while we hold it in reality too...Both of us have to be alone for this to work of course since it would be incredibly weird if I wet myself in my room with people in the house :) (Yes I still live at home :()

The roleplay is a tool to make it real sort of. Another thing is challenges, basically works like I come up with something another girl has to do, or she comes up with something for me or something that we both do. Few examples I can remember would be holding it in town for a set amount of time, drinking a set amount of liquid and then going home on the bus (40 minute ride for me). We usually set it up in percentage of bladder capacity so instead od just saying "Drink one litre" it would be like "Drink until you are 80 % full". Then maybe I will have to down another glass or two before getting on the bus so that I will fill up some more during the trip :)

While I do like watching public desperation and/or wetting I could never wet myself in public, it would be way too embarassing. Public desperation is fine though, it's scary but fun/sexy at the same time and the fact that it's scary and makes me nervous somehow adds to the whole experience, amking it even better. I/we try to set up these things with sort of an escape plan to avoid public wettings and avoid being seen wet at all. Either I can do it really late when no one would see me anyway or it's easy to sneak away, I could wear a skirt so that it won't show, stuff like that!

The third thing I do is try to "plan" my own accidents. Now obviously an accident can't be planned because then it won't be an accident, duh! But how else am I supposed to do it? =P This will be better explained in my other stories when I get around to posting them but to me it's more of a mind game. I pick a place to go and an amount to drink, and try to come up with reasons why I can't use the toilet/squat somewhere, and I plant those ideas in my head, sort of making me dumber than I really am =P I force myself to think that if I go squat in the woods someone will see me, the public restrooms are too dirty to use or the classic "I can make it home!" even when I'm miles off with a full bladder :) In reality I can pretty much always find somewhere to go or I can hold it if it's really needed but that's not the point with these planned accidents!

All of the above is a huge turn on for me just as desperation is in general. I like the feeling of the desperation growing, I like the sexy hold it moves girls do when they're full, I get sort of a warm feeling in my tummy sometimes when I'm bursting, it feels kind of naughty to do it just to name a few reasons. Could probably think of more but it's morning over here and I'm tired so I will leave it for now :)

Anyway I'm open for suggestions regarding roleplays/challenges/planned accidents and would love to get new ideas in all those areas. Personally I think this whole thing is a lot more fun if you get some variation instead of just the same desperation/wetting scenario over and over!

Quote from: Millan on April 19, 2011, 02:15:34 AM
I like both desperation/wetting but I prefer it if it's accidental...Which is of course incredibly hard to pull off =P

You should try the catnip.  Seems to work incredibly well for some (myself included).


I'm glad to see this thread still goin'.  When I first came across it I didn't think it would become this popular, but now that I think about it, it's not that surprising.  I'm sure many of us prefer seeing others in desperate situations, but will settle for ourselves in a pinch :P

I guess this thread can do with an update.

Like others have said, sometimes trying to hold it until the point of having a 'genuine' accident is uncomfortable or even downright painful.  That can ruin the fun pretty fast for many of us.

I have mixed experiences, and sometimes I can hold on until I literally start to leak, whereas other times I can't stand the discomfort and just end up letting it go... so, I got a bright idea and took some ibuprofen to help ease the discomfort a little.  I'm not sure why I didn't think of it before, but so far, so good.

I wanna see some new life in this thread, so hit me back with your recent findings/experiences.

I love self wetting.

I always experiment with different ways to do it. To either do it on purpose or stage an accident by holding for longer, and I also try different clothes and positions to wet in. I like the feeling of having a full bladder, it's one thing that can turn me on if I focus on it long enough. And when I let go, it feels so good and it makes me feel naughty and aroused. It's something I've enjoyed since my pre teens, and I also have a history of doing it when I was around 5 years old on purpose. I guess it's something that's been there in a big chunk of my life.

For pelvic floor support while seated, I've been using a narrow towel roll between the buttocks; keeping my ass shut, pressing on the perineum, and extending under the crotch to catch my pee (that, and a plastic garbage bag). The most advanced version is five microfiber auto detailing cloths rolled together, then wrapped like a burrito with a cotton bandana (because microfiber isn't absorbent when dry). This complements my "frightened terrapin" technique:  sitting very upright, I can completely relax the urethral sphincters,  and yet my urine is still impeded by by the compressed prostate gland, prolonging my ecstasy with small leaks over several hours. (I prefer overwhelmed urethral sensations to bladder stretch.)  I plan to elaborate on this just a bit with one of those plastic prostate stimulators, which I hope will feel less *anal* than a traditional butt-plug.

Lying on a bed, the toy can compress the shaft of the penis against the distended pelvis, again impeding the pee and resulting in a similar sensation, maybe even more intense, at even lower bladder volumes.

Girls can use vaginal insertion toys in conjunction with holding for similar sensations, which made me jealous.

To those mentioning pain during desperation: what often causes it to hurt like hell is drinking large amounts of liquids in a short time span. Your muscles are still strong, so they hold out and it hurts.

If you drink the same amount over an extended amount of time, however, your muscles slowly get tired from constantly lightly holding, instead of a sudden all-out hold, leading to a loss of control feeling instead as your muscles get tired as you hit your limit.

I have confirmed the above to be true, at least for me. I have a very large capacity, so this takes awhile though...perhaps I'll try this tea thing next!

I have been hearing this lately, and I have to say there is truth to it.  I suppose the problem is that many of us aren't so patient.  Personally, I don't have many opportunities to do a real hold, but the ones that I do are usually pretty rewarding.  The last real hold I did lasted well over 8 hours, but it was worth it to say the least.  Now, if only I could get that down to around 2 hours...

And yeah, that was with every asset I have.  About the only option left is detraining...