How about making it so that you have to post at least 10 times to see the galleries. Maybe you'll get more post that way.
Just a suggestion.
That's quite a good suggestion. There are so many great topics here that everybody should be able to reach 10 posts easily. I support this wholeheartedly.
Yeah, definitely! The galleries just keep getting better and better. It would be more than enough motivation for people to post more often.
After all, it's so depressing to see someone make an account on a forum site, just to make a post, and never return.
I, too, get angry at that and I'll see if I can't get Duce (the real workhorse of this site :p) to take that into consideration.
:thumbup1:
FallenStar
Since when hentai counts as porn :blink:?
Quote from: Dalamar on September 06, 2007, 09:15:19 AM
It's a porn forum ffs. There's not exactly much to discuss.
It's not a porn forum. It's about female desperation. And there would be plenty to discuss if people would actually post.
Quote from: Dalamar on September 06, 2007, 09:15:19 AMSome of us don't like to spam for no reason, you know. ._.
We're not asking you to spam, we're just asking you to start posting and joining in on some of the converstions. Keep the board alive. No point in having a forum if you don't talk, right?
Quote from: Dalamar on September 06, 2007, 09:15:19 AM
It's a porn forum ffs. There's not exactly much to discuss. Some of us don't like to spam for no reason, you know. ._.
... and I honestly doubt you get a whole lot of traffic anyways considering the nature of the board.
First of all:
If you only came here for pictures and no discussions, then I'm sorry to say that you, my good sir, have come to the WRONG DAMN PLACE.
This is not merely a place to see pics; this is to be a great community of like-minded individuals talking about a fetish they like and enjoy. It is not to be a place for this kind of attitude you are spewing.
Second of all:
There is a lot to discuss and even if you don't wish to discuss the hentai section of the site, go down to the Random section and talk about stuff there. There is no requirement that says you HAVE to post in the other sections... :icon_rolleyes:
Thirdly:
We get a lot of traffic here. Maybe not as much as the big loli forums you might see or something like 4chan, but we hold our own with members posting and whatnot. Your claim is ridiculous and insulting and it will not be tolerated.
And yeah, Lisk... Hentai is considered porn, since it shows women/girls/guys/ in what most people consider pornographic situations. :p
Bottom line, Dalamar:
If you don't want to post, you don't have to. Just let me know and I'll ban your account forthwith.
FallenStar - Site Admin
Quote from: FallenStar on September 06, 2007, 09:35:10 PM
And yeah, Lisk... Hentai is considered porn, since it shows women/girls/guys/ in what most people consider pornographic situations. :p
Of course it does, and of course some people WILL equal hentai with porn - look at the poor canadians :).
But seriously, this is not porn at all, it has more erotic and teasing touch ^^.
I've rechecked the meber list, and it's worst than I feared. If you go with my idea, you'll only have about 18 to 20 members left. that's not even enough to fill the first page!!!! :crying:
Quote from: mipmixer on September 07, 2007, 04:04:23 PM
Outside of you I've never seen anyone who doesn't consider Hentai porn.
Well, I've never considered it porn either. I always thought that you could only call it porn when real people were involved. Guess I'm just weird.
I don't think this site is about porn or hentai though. Female desperation is only a type of fetish, and it can't merely be classified as porn/hentai.
Quote from: Neil on September 08, 2007, 08:47:51 PM
I don't think this site is about porn or hentai though. Female desperation is only a type of fetish, and it can't merely be classified as porn/hentai.
Wrong!
As with all the other fetishes, the pics that are shown here are clearly of a pornographic nature - peeing and wetting themselves for the purposes of turning on either themselves or other people is clearly pornographic in nature for most people and as such, this site has to be listed as a hentai/porn site.
As for your other problem, now that you have 10 posts, you should be able to see everything.
FallenStar
Quote from: FallenStar on September 08, 2007, 09:17:53 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 08, 2007, 08:47:51 PM
I don't think this site is about porn or hentai though. Female desperation is only a type of fetish, and it can't merely be classified as porn/hentai.
Wrong!
As with all the other fetishes, the pics that are shown here are clearly of a pornographic nature - peeing and wetting themselves for the purposes of turning on either themselves or other people is clearly pornographic in nature for most people and as such, this site has to be listed as a hentai/porn site.
As for your other problem, now that you have 10 posts, you should be able to see everything.
FallenStar
my mistake. that's right, it does contain pornography, but depends on the situation.
what I meant to say is that sometimes people often relate female desperation to extreme pornography, rather than accepting it as 'female desperation'.
To me, 'FD' is 'FD', and that's what make it special..
Quote from: Penny_Arc on September 09, 2007, 12:08:25 AM
If I might interject and refer back to what I believe was the original topic, exactly how is someone going to make ten quality posts when this place has barely any topics? From where I'm sitting, there's very little here to actually get involved in.
That's true, there are only a handful of topics. And there would probably be more if it were more than just the same 5-10 people coming back to the forums. Of course, because no one else seems to want to post (or have anything to do with the forums for that matter) we haven't had any reason to increase the number of topics.
QuoteIn my experience RPing appeals to very few people, the fanfic section is out because you can't view the fics until you've posted, and the other sections are either variations of the same polls over and over again or questions that are too specific to appeal to anyone more than the smaller demographic that they're aimed at.
While it is true that the RPs only appeal to certain folks, most of the other sections would have more if we had more people giving their opinions on what to add. Personally, I think we should have a section for discussing anime and videogames in a regular conversation. (ie: no fetishes involved.) we could also have a topic for serious life discussions, where we could talk to each other about serious matters and help each other deal without our own personal issues. (again, no fetishes involved)
QuoteOf course, someone could just go around in the random section and make nonsensical topics about nothing, but that's not exactly beneficial to what I believe the ultimate goal here is: creating a community (and a noble goal it is. Precious few fetishes have anyone looking out for the social aspects)
Right again, just posting randomly wouldn't do much good. And it is very hard to start a community about a visual fetish.
QuoteNonetheless, there's a distinct difference between a "community" and "a group of people"
With all due respect man: WELL DUH!!!.
Quote from: packratPersonally, I think we should have a section for discussing anime and videogames in a regular conversation.
That sounds like a good idea. If we're looking for something that everyone here would likely participate in, gaming and anime is something most of us have in common.
There's another thing to consider for increasing the board activity. All the anime scenes that involve FD are good topics for discussion. We could watch one and then comment on it. (In the list or in a new topic it doesn't matter which.)
Going back to the lack of conversation and new topics being posted, etc; I personally feel that sometimes people are scared to post, due to lack of replies or being shunned by the other members. I know this wouldn't happen here, since most - if not ALL - members are very nice and have a lot to talk about.
I just think there's a lack of discussion in ideas for posting, and when someone has an idea they may not post since there might not be a reply. The same goes for the introduction posts. Whilst I know it isn't intentional, some members may not look at these and not notice when someone new turns up. If they aren't know to exist, then the new members won't feel like participating - thus the number of leechers.
The way I get forum posts going is to talk to toehrs about the idea, discuss thoughts and comply them into the initial post and get the ball rolling. Emails, IMs, chat rooms (*PLUG*I know this site has a chat room*PLUG* :P) - anything to talk to likeminded individuals such as you and me is always good. You feel involved - and the community grows :D
Anyone is free to contact me via email if they wish to further discuss - and hopefully, eventually post here! :D
Speak soon y'all.
it is pretty hard to get 10 posts. I've taken part on forums, and I'm generally a pretty passive poster. I do say something when I feel need be, but most of the time I'm pretty quiet. Also, with the current lack of active members, 10 might be a stretch for those of us who aren't into RP.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
If you don't feel capable of being part of a community of FD-loving fans, perhaps Nyou2 and Nyou Fiction is more your speed.
FallenStar - Head Admin
Some very good points. However, I see this forum as a way to find new friends, and with new friends come new conversations and topics.
I'm somewhat confused.
You have something that people appear to want in the pictures and stories. And you have something that isn't as wanted in the forum. Why have the site revolve around the less popular part? Why not have comments on the pictures count as well? That way you'd get input and feedback and people would get to see the pictures and read the fics at the same time?
Fostering a community is nice, but if you keep kicking people out who aren't part of it every day, you're going to turn off a lot of people. If you were really interested in growing the community you would let positive word of mouth spread to build up membership. Then when it's big enough, you can impose some restrictions. Like on Peesearch, where I came from. The post minimum is 15. Even though that's more than yours, it doesn't matter because over a dozen new threads and 200 posts have been made since I visited last night. Making a quality post isn't hard when there are quality threads to start. I agree with Penny_Arc in that there so seems to be too many restrictions.You delete accounts after 10 days? Gimme a break! I've been busy with school and other obligations for 10 days or more several times. Are you trying to punish people for having a life outside of the forum? 90 days makes much more sense. Even better, on Peesearch, they just delete a post from your score every month. That way a person at 10 will only have to make one more post instead of 15, which they might not even bother doing.
I'm sorry... but I'd rather have a small forum full of people who post every 10 days at the minimum, than to have people who go more than 2 weeks without posting.
Further, if you don't like it, you can always just pack up and leave. No one's forcing you to be here. If you don't like it, you don't have to remain a member.
Also: I am looking into the idea of a system to let me know if someone hasn't posted on the forum but has posted pics or fics in the downloads section. When I work something out on that, all you will need to do is sign on to the site once every 10 days (I believe that's all that's needed - you don't even need to post) to show that you've been active on the site...)
And...
Again, if the forum doesn't have topics you wish to talk about, for god's sake, man... suggest some new ones! Suggest new boards or anything! If you don't like the current topics or the boards aren't to your liking, suggest new boards! It's not that hard if you've already typed up this! =)
FallenStar - Site Admin
Quote from: FallenStar on January 31, 2008, 01:04:54 PM
Further, if you don't like it, you can always just pack up and leave. No one's forcing you to be here. If you don't like it, you don't have to remain a member.
Ouch...that's harsh man. You really aren't going to get many members with an attitude like that....>_>
QuoteAgain, if the forum doesn't have topics you wish to talk about, for god's sake, man... suggest some new ones! Suggest new boards or anything! If you don't like the current topics or the boards aren't to your liking, suggest new boards! It's not that hard if you've already typed up this! =)
FallenStar - Site Admin
I completely agree. I just wish everyone else would do this.
Quote from: packrat on January 31, 2008, 01:51:57 PM
Ouch...that's harsh man. You really aren't going to get many members with an attitude like that....>_>
Yeah, I know... I'm just really tired of people complaining about those rules... >.>
No offense meant to anyone, of course. :death:
Quote from: packrat on January 31, 2008, 01:51:57 PM
Quote from: FallenStar on January 31, 2008, 01:04:54 PM
Further, if you don't like it, you can always just pack up and leave. No one's forcing you to be here. If you don't like it, you don't have to remain a member.
Ouch...that's harsh man. You really aren't going to get many members with an attitude like that....>_>
From what I can tell, that's the standard moderator response when their dominance is questioned. They aren't interested in making the place better, just remaining in control. If several people have complained about the rules, then that should be a cue to you to change them.
Quote from: ppfan on February 01, 2008, 06:54:41 AM
From what I can tell, that's the standard moderator response when their dominance is questioned. They aren't interested in making the place better, just remaining in control. If several people have complained about the rules, then that should be a cue to you to change them.
It's the standard moderator response when people try to get things for free when they really shouldn't...
I've already explained to you that I do not like leechers... If you want to know how I define leechers, go and look at the topic in the Announcements board.
Now, if you can't post or even log in once every 30 days and you do not upload any pictures/files to the site, I'm afraid I'll have to delete your account.
It is really your choice, dude... Again, no one is forcing you to be here. You can make your own choice.
No matter which forum you go to, you are always going to have rules. Rules that you can either follow, or leave.
I'm sorry if you don't like the rules, but they are what they are and they will *not* be changed just to suit a few grumpy members, okay?
FallenStar
personally, I agree with FallenStar's stance on the rules. They are good rules I have seen many forums with rules laxer than here that after awhile collapse under their own weight and drown in the cesspool of shit they created. There are other forums where the rules are much stricter and the members feel repressed. From what I have seen most people here fall into neither category and are happy with the rules. So why should the administrator change the rules that the majority approve of for the small minority that disapprove. However when I read posts about people being banned and the rules on the front page it sounds like everyone who gets banned is banned on the first offense without even a warning. So maybe a good compromise would to put them on watch if they can't fallow the rules and if they still have trouble give a temporary ban and if they still have trouble after the temporary ban then they get a permanent ban.
p.s It is not hard to get 10 posts on this forum. I was able to get my first 10 from my intro post a reply to my intro post and posted in 6 of the 8 anime general topics and posted in 2 of the video game topics.
Actuallly, no one is really banned unless they do something really stupid like blab to everyone they are underage...
The only thing I do is delete the account (which they are free to remake if they so desire)... and that's simply my way of "warning" them as this forum doesn't really have (or at least, I don't know) of any means of warning someone short of banning or deleting them... =/
What about that "Karma" thing? That messing with that affect a member's abilities? If it could, may be you could use that as a warning too. (Like setting a limit to the number of negative karma points one can recieve and have the deleted if they go past that limit.)
Quote from: packrat on February 02, 2008, 10:53:54 AM
What about that "Karma" thing? That messing with that affect a member's abilities? If it could, may be you could use that as a warning too. (Like setting a limit to the number of negative karma points one can recieve and have the deleted if they go past that limit.)
S'far as I know, it doesn't affect anything... =/
I should speak to Doom_Guard about it... He seems to come up with lots of good answers for SMF type forums... That's why I made him an admin... xD
While I think the ten posts are a good idea, it would help if there were more forums open to post in right away. All I can post in is this forum right now.
Quote from: rianswings on May 07, 2008, 11:48:32 AM
While I think the ten posts are a good idea, it would help if there were more forums open to post in right away. All I can post in is this forum right now.
that's not right you should have access to the anime, video game and final fantasy forums.
I, personally don't think that forcing people to post is a very good idea. Every other site I have seen do this it always ends up with people posting random shit, without even reading the previous comments. But hey that's just me.
Quote from: UndeadSamurai01 on July 03, 2008, 04:00:15 PM
I, personally don't think that forcing people to post is a very good idea. Every other site I have seen do this it always ends up with people posting random shit, without even reading the previous comments. But hey that's just me.
If you don't like it, you'll welcome to leave the site at any time. As I've explained many times before, I would rather have a smaller forum with members that actually post, than a large forum where no one posts.
Quote from: Star on July 03, 2008, 09:20:50 PM
Quote from: UndeadSamurai01 on July 03, 2008, 04:00:15 PM
I, personally don't think that forcing people to post is a very good idea. Every other site I have seen do this it always ends up with people posting random shit, without even reading the previous comments. But hey that's just me.
If you don't like it, you'll welcome to leave the site at any time. As I've explained many times before, I would rather have a smaller forum with members that actually post, than a large forum where no one posts.
You've missed my point entirely *read
and I agree with you it is better to have the smaller community which participates, but the last thing you want is hundreds of leachers posting shit in your forum, and clogging up the discussions, just to get their 10 posts!
Quote from: UndeadSamurai01 on July 04, 2008, 07:58:58 AM
You've missed my point entirely *read
and I agree with you it is better to have the smaller community which participates, but the last thing you want is hundreds of leachers posting shit in your forum, and clogging up the discussions, just to get their 10 posts!
Hence, the no "Spam" rule. Or did not you *read that?
If anyone posts "shit" that is considered to be spam, they are warned about it. I like to go by the three strike rule. You get three chances to clean up your act. If you fail to clean up, then you're OUTTA HERE! :lol:
I did read the rules,
but that dosn't mean that spammers will
Quote from: UndeadSamurai01 on July 04, 2008, 05:36:30 PM
I did read the rules,
but that dosn't mean that spammers will
That is when the three strikes rule will come into play. The G-mods and I will warn those that do spam. Once they've broken that rule three times, they're gone for a week.
Well according to rule 34 A): If it exists there is porn of it. B) If it exists someone somewhere has a fetish for it. And rule 35: If ti exists but there is no porn of it, then someone will eventually make porn of it. So yes it is possible that someone has a fetish for spam... both the lunch food spam and the internet spam.
A. porn factor: i do not consider it porn, however, if someones grandmother happens to view the site, i'm pretty sure they would call it porn. in that case, the opinions of the majority, or people whom we find of importance have a greater impact on how we see it classified.
B. 10 posts: i do find it hard to post on the small amout of topics. true enough, i can create my own but it can still be a little repeatative.
Quote from: doomsday316 on October 14, 2008, 08:42:18 AM
Do we get eechi scnes in here + desperation?
No. It is strickly desperation. Though considering when I replied, you may already know that.
I think the real problem is that the mods have a very strict idea of what constitutes spam. I had all my posts deleted, even though they were relevant to the topics
Whn will you realise that you;re driving people away by being too harsh with the rules. None of my posts were short setences, if i agree with what someone has already said, i have three options
1 - don't post as they;v already said it
2- post it again regardless
3- let them know that agree with them, so they feel backed up
I know you;d rather have me do 1 or 2, but at least with 3 you get a general feel for how people view issues
When will *you* realize that bitching and whining and moaning only serve to turn the mods against you in the first place? Dude, if your posts were deleted, it was because one of us deemed them as spam. You can either like it or lump it. If you don't like it, there's the door, my friend. -------------------->
On another forum I visit we have a similar "relevant and constructive" rule for posts. We don't enforce it so strongly, but it is there and posts are deleted every now and then.
I also felt that the rules here were significantly more restrictive than most forums at first, but really, it's not that big a deal. Don't post unless you have something of value to say. I haven't had any of my posts deleted, and I can't say I've had to make a concerted effort to make sure they were good.
It's not good if you have to force a community.
Quote from: mkart720 on December 31, 2008, 11:34:40 PM
It's not good if you have to force a community.
The cops do just that. Without law enFORCEment, people would be killing each other, looting; the country would resemble a tribal African society run by the guy with the biggest guns.